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Fri, Aug 1, 1997 (16:51) |
carmen hermosillo (hummie)
what do you think of them?
how easily do they break?
do you see many in texas?
86 responses total.
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Response 1 of 86: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Aug 3, 1997 (03:49) * 3 lines
I'm a big Dodge Caravan / Plymouth Voyager fan. What does Sebring look like?
If you give me some pointers, I'll do a nonscientific survery of the Texas roadways
whre I travel.
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Response 2 of 86: Guido Meijers (480es) * Sun, Aug 3, 1997 (06:26) * 2 lines
Does anyone have info's about the Plymouth Prowler ?
Would like some pictures of it . Thanks Guido ..
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Response 3 of 86: Chrysler talk (terry) * Sun, Aug 3, 1997 (21:10) * 5 lines
Semtex says he knows someone who just bought one in Albuquerque NM.
The Plymouth Sebring that is. Still looking for one. We'll be on the
look out for a Prowler also.
Have you tried a net search Guido?
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Response 4 of 86: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Sep 13, 1997 (11:00) * 1 lines
I'm still on the look out!
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Response 5 of 86: El Sam Blob (Afor) * Mon, Oct 20, 1997 (18:17) * 3 lines
The new Chrysler Sebring Convertible is the replacement for the LeBaron Convertible, and is almost as good looking.
I have no idea how reliable it is.
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Response 6 of 86: Guido Meijers (480es) * Tue, Oct 21, 1997 (17:18) * 4 lines
How about The Delorean?
Do you all like it?
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Response 7 of 86: El Sam Blob (Afor) * Tue, Oct 21, 1997 (17:28) * 4 lines
DeLorean...It looked interesting when it was manufactured. What will it do? How does it compare against Porsches of the same era?
All I know about the DeLorean was that it was designed and built by the DeLorean Motor Company with assistance from the British governmant and Lotus Engineering, that it was mid-engined with a Renault V-6 engine, that it had a steel spine frame (Lotus influence?) and a composite body with a stainless steel skin, that it was in the "Back To The Future" movies (and that it could at least attain a speed of 88 mph!) and that it was struggling to survive when John Z. DeLorean was arrested for trafficking in co
aine (later acquitted). I have no idea of what the car was capable of (over and above 88 mph, that is!)
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Response 8 of 86: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Oct 22, 1997 (01:14) * 1 lines
What do you mean "mid-engined"?
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Response 9 of 86: El Sam Blob (Afor) * Wed, Oct 22, 1997 (09:49) * 5 lines
A mid-engined car, like the Fiat X-1/9 or the Lamborghini Countach (talk about extremes!), has the engine behind the driver but in front of the rear wheels.
Other mid-engined cars of note are (affordable): the Pontiac Fiero, the Toyota MR2, (semi-affordable): the Porsche 914, (unaffordable) the Porsche Boxster, the Ferrari 308, Lamborghini Urracco, Lamborghini Jalpa, Lotus Esprit (REALLY unaffordable) Lamborghini Miura, Countach, Diablo, Ferrari Testarossa, F40, Bugatti EB110, Vector, etc.
Most racing cars nowadays are mid-engined.
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Response 10 of 86: Yves G. (yves) * Sat, Oct 25, 1997 (02:53) * 3 lines
The mid-engined get you the best gravity center = best handling but less iterior space. But what's about Vetts, Cobra, Viper...
Yves
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Response 11 of 86: El Sam Blob (Afor) * Sun, Oct 26, 1997 (09:40) * 5 lines
The Cobra was one of the last front-engined sports racers to win consistently.
The current (C5) Corvette has a rear-mounted transmission (a la late '50's - early '60's racing cars, the Ferrari Daytona, and the Porsche 928) for better rwd traction.
The Viper is an attempt to revive the spirit of the Cobra. It seems to be successful in doing so.
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Response 12 of 86: El Sam Blob (Afor) * Sun, Oct 26, 1997 (10:11) * 3 lines
The mid-engine layout is only useful with sports cars, or maybe with vans and pickup trucks.
I'll continue this discussion in the topic on "Engine Placement"
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Response 13 of 86: Yves G. (yves) * Mon, Oct 27, 1997 (01:02) * 1 lines
Your right on for the Viper vs Cobra, Chrysler eaven put the same stripes on it's Viper.
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Response 14 of 86: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Oct 27, 1997 (08:46) * 2 lines
I hear they're still making the Chrysler Sebring, and I'm on the lookout
for these species.
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Response 15 of 86: El Sam Blob (Afor) * Mon, Oct 27, 1997 (09:42) * 3 lines
They only started making them about two or three years ago! They should be around! Especially since the convertible is the replacement for the Le Baron Convertible, the best selling, or second-best selling convertible of its time!
BTW, the Sebring Convertible is not based on the Sebring Coupe, but on the Cirrus sedan.
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Response 16 of 86: El Sam Blob (Afor) * Sun, Nov 30, 1997 (11:13) * 1 lines
Saw one on Thursday morning. White with black top.
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Response 17 of 86: Frank Susca (Cafe) * Mon, Dec 1, 1997 (10:06) * 1 lines
It's the best convertible deal for the money, very nice looking. They're selling all they make.
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Response 18 of 86: El Sam Blob (Afor) * Mon, Dec 1, 1997 (22:36) * 3 lines
As expected for the replacement for the Le Baron Convertible.
I still prefer the looks of the LeBaron, but the Sebring has grown on me.
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Response 19 of 86: Frank Susca (Cafe) * Tue, Dec 2, 1997 (09:40) * 1 lines
Hey y'know you can do a body-kit job on the old LeBaron to make it a ringer for the Benz 500SL? Think about it!
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Response 20 of 86: El Sam Blob (Afor) * Tue, Dec 2, 1997 (17:47) * 1 lines
The LeBaron looks better than the 500SL IMO.
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Response 21 of 86: Frank Susca (Cafe) * Wed, Dec 3, 1997 (09:59) * 1 lines
The new Sebring looks better than both IMHO. I guess the least expensive adult-size convert you can buy? And women look good in it!
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Response 22 of 86: El Sam Blob (Afor) * Thu, Dec 4, 1997 (20:10) * 3 lines
I don't know; the Sebring Convertible doesn't look that much better than the LeBaron it replaced.
What convertible don't women look good in? (A Hummer convertible, maybe?)
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Response 23 of 86: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Dec 4, 1997 (21:05) * 3 lines
Speaking of hummers, I wish hummie would come by and join us
(she started this topic).
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Response 24 of 86: Frank Susca (Cafe) * Fri, Dec 5, 1997 (09:10) * 4 lines
Favorite babe-driven convert: '97 Pontiac T/A, all white
Least favorite: Saab 900, any color
Medium turn-on value: Open Jeep Wrangler
Reviews by Frank, sportbike-ridin' observeur supreme..(o;
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Response 25 of 86: El Sam Blob (Afor) * Fri, Dec 5, 1997 (20:44) * 5 lines
Really hated the so-called "Mercury Capri", Mazda 323-based front drive "roadster", that came out shortly after Mazda got it almost perfectly right with the Miata.
What's wrong with the SAAB 900? Better that the VW Cabrio IMHO! Refrigerator white, please!
What I'd really like to see is a BIG convertible, maybe Grand Marquis-based!
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Response 26 of 86: Frank Susca (Cafe) * Sat, Dec 6, 1997 (11:24) * 2 lines
True, there should be a big-boat convert somewhere.
I dunno Sam, the Saab looks even more weird without the top, to me. Beltline on a convert should be kept stylistically as low as possible, and that shape can't do it. And BTW the Saab seems uncharacterstically cramped in convertible form; my wife's boss had one and it felt like you were under a table inside!
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Response 27 of 86: El Sam Blob (Afor) * Sun, Dec 7, 1997 (00:13) * 3 lines
As far as I'm concerned, the 900 Convertible just looks like a 900 without a top. Granted, one wonders a bit about a company that always followed a functional esthetic producing a convertible at all, but I don't mind it (at least the original convertible, I don't know how the Opel Vectra-based 900 Convertible looks!)
I was hoping that Buick would have made a convertible version of the Roadmaster, but it's been discontinued for about two years. Lincoln-Mercury is now my only hope, unless GM or Chrysler (or Toyota?) makes one based on a truck platform (4 x 2 only, please!)
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Response 28 of 86: carmen hermosillo (humdog2) * Tue, Dec 9, 1997 (12:48) * 18 lines
i don't like saabs at all. whatsoever.
but the sebring is competing in my mind with a porsche 944 (an everyday
kind of porsche -- i do not at this moment aspire to the 911SC, which i once
had and adored, or the 356 or the speedster, which i venerate)
i am going to be doing a LOT of driving for a while, and i want something
that will not leave me to weep by the side of the road during a rainstorm
at night and is yet less ugly and utilitarian than a honda civic. it should be
procurable in dark green with a tan interior or something like that, anyway.
i do not drive white cars...
by the way, i checked out the prowler.
no.
i liked the way it looked, but it sort of sucks as transportation, in my humble
opinion.
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Response 29 of 86: El Sam Blob (Afor) * Tue, Dec 9, 1997 (22:18) * 7 lines
Less ugly and utilitarian than a Civic; not looking for a Citroen 2CV or a Subaru Forester, are you?
VW Golf convertible? Mazda MX-5 Miata? Audi Convertible? If the Prowler sucks as transportation, I dare not mention the Honda Nighthawk!
Why is everyone a SAAB non-fan? What's wrong with them?
BTW: White & yellow are the most visible colours. Goes with that old adage of two-wheelers: "Be seen & not HURT!"
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Response 30 of 86: Yves G. (yves) * Wed, Dec 10, 1997 (00:31) * 1 lines
I don't like SAAB to, and don't know why. Probably a look that we are'nt use to. There's no a lot around here. Colors: The white is'nt a good one (yes to dam snow :o)). The red is a good one but popular belief is that red catch coops attention (NOT good). But I owned a red Sunbird and didn't had tikets.
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Response 31 of 86: Frank Susca (Cafe) * Wed, Dec 10, 1997 (10:23) * 4 lines
The prowler's not meant to be "practical" in any way, just a head-turner.
The Saabs are really well-done, just old-fashioned funny looking! And I believe the key is where it is just for different's sake. And though the VW's a box, it works really well with the top down as do the others; no noise and very little looseness.
Learned 2 things about red this year: that it's the most expensive paint to buy by far, and insurance companies in certain states rate higher because it's the color most involved in accidents and violations!
Yellow's my favorite.
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Response 32 of 86: carmen hermosillo (humdog2) * Wed, Dec 10, 1997 (13:11) * 17 lines
i saw a little citroen about the size of a morris minor or a vwbug. it was,
in my opinion, less ugly than the large citroen, and sort of cute
in a wet puppy sort of way. i am told by people who love
citroens that the citroen is a car that you have to ride in to appreciate.
i don't like the shape of the saabs i've seen. i did drive a volvo for many
years -- it was a nice car although somewhat gutless on the uphill, and very
comfortable. what i liked about the volvo is also something i liked about the
vwbug: the design is fairly stable in terms of the way it looks, so the car
doesn't look outdated so quickly.
my father, who was a car hound, drove a 31 modelA cabriolet as a commute car into the sixties & gave it up for a vw bug which he kept until his
death in 1980. i inherited the car, which i loved,
(he gave my sister the 57 tbird hardtop
convertible) and drove it until the axle fell apart, at last.
i'm wondering now: what's the 97 equivalent of the model A??
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Response 33 of 86: El Sam Blob (Afor) * Wed, Dec 10, 1997 (17:34) * 7 lines
The Citroen about the size of a Morris Minor or VW Bug is the 2CV (Deux Chevaux) They stopped making them in 1987 and I have been grieving them ever since!
Tell your sister to be very careful! There are people who will do anything to own a '57 T-Bird!
The '97 equivalent of a Model A, in terms of basic transportation, is probably the Toyota Corolla, or the Honda CIviv you hate so much.
Which is more practical, a Plymouth Prowler, or a Honda PC800? :-]
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Response 34 of 86: Frank Susca (Cafe) * Thu, Dec 11, 1997 (10:50) * 2 lines
Gotta go with the PC Sam. Cost, maintenance, insurance, mileage, mobility, reliablity, it's all there. Prowler: head-turner, weak performance, undoubtedly high insurance, etc.
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Response 35 of 86: El Sam Blob (Afor) * Thu, Dec 11, 1997 (20:34) * 3 lines
I don't know...Just got e-mail from Leslie, who doesn't like the PC800 based on a test ride. Didn't give any details, but I figure from XRoads that Leslie went into it with an open mind, so...
Then again, the concept is still quite appealing.
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Response 36 of 86: Frank Susca (Cafe) * Thu, Dec 11, 1997 (21:00) * 2 lines
Hey how come Leslie's not at Spring?
Maybe the PC's so damn quiet it's hard to feel it's a bike!
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Response 37 of 86: El Sam Blob (Afor) * Fri, Dec 12, 1997 (05:18) * 3 lines
Leslie said something about the system timing out during attempts to post messages. Gave up.
Still no details...
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Response 38 of 86: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Mon, Dec 15, 1997 (19:11) * 3 lines
Brandon's got a SAAB 900 and LOVES it! I fondly refer to them as 'slobs.'
Because I can.
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Response 39 of 86: El Sam Blob (Afor) * Mon, Dec 15, 1997 (22:43) * 1 lines
"Slobs" sounds more like a definition of mid '70s Buicks than SAABs...
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Response 40 of 86: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Wed, Dec 17, 1997 (19:24) * 1 lines
yeah. but the alliteration just isn't there with the Buick.
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Response 41 of 86: El Sam Blob (Afor) * Sat, Dec 27, 1997 (08:03) * 20 lines
If I remember correctly, Buick, Oldsmobile, Cadillac, Mercury, Lincoln and Plymouth are all convertible-less at present (although the 1999 Prowler is promised early next year, with MORE POWER! arr arr arr! By God, it needs it!).
And here I thought convertibles were luxury cars!
Mercedes-Benz does not make any 4-seat convertibles at present, leaving BMW and Audi to battle in the prestige German convertible sector. Jaguar has targeted Mercedes-Benz with their XK-8. The Aston Martin DB7 Volante is beyond the reach of mere mortals, and one can buy two of those for the price of a Bentley Azure!
My current convertible wish list:
Mazda MX-5 Miata
VW Golf Cabrio (is it available with the VR6?)
Chrysler Sebring Convertible
SAAB 900 Convertible (base or V-6)
Audi Cabrio
BMW 323i Convertible (318i no longer made)
BMW Z3 (either 1.9 or 2.8)
Chevrolet Camaro
Chevrolet Corvette
Dodge Viper RT/10
That's it? I'm sure there were others! I'll check!
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Response 42 of 86: El Sam Blob (Afor) * Sat, Dec 27, 1997 (08:05) * 3 lines
There are no Fords, Jaguars or Mercedes-Benzes in the list. That was intentional.
What was not intentional was the ommission of the Morgan +8!
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Response 43 of 86: Frank Susca (Cafe) * Sat, Dec 27, 1997 (09:39) * 1 lines
A Cabrio V6 would be something eh? A flying box!
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Response 44 of 86: El Sam Blob (Afor) * Sat, Dec 27, 1997 (18:18) * 1 lines
Indeed!
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Response 45 of 86: carmen hermosillo (humdog2) * Tue, Dec 30, 1997 (13:27) * 6 lines
the morgan is a beautiful little car.
i almost bought one.
you forgot to put the weird little citroen convertible on your list -- the cv
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Response 46 of 86: El Sam Blob (Afor) * Thu, Jan 1, 1998 (14:48) * 5 lines
Oh, yes, the 2CV; as one magazine I've read put it, it either has the world's best sunroof or the world's worst convertible top. I prefer to think of it as the former, but it is, technically, a convertible.
Thanks for noting the omission, Hummie!
The Mazda 121 (n.a./U.S.) has a similar top as an option.
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Response 47 of 86: carmen hermosillo (humdog2) * Wed, Jan 7, 1998 (19:08) * 8 lines
happy new year.
now.
what about the New Bug?
at 15,000 USD it sounds pretty good. and in SIX colors, yet! the vwbug
web page is pretty nice, and has a very amusing table comparing the old bug with the new bug.
i think i want one, if approves...
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Response 48 of 86: El Sam Blob (Afor) * Thu, Jan 8, 1998 (05:27) * 1 lines
I personally think the New Bug is a sad & sick joke. The original Bug was just that, original. This one is a cynical marketing exercise. Inline front engine, front drive, liquid cooling, nothing there says Bug to me!
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Response 49 of 86: Yves G. (yves) * Fri, Jan 9, 1998 (04:40) * 1 lines
I saw it on TV. It's a very weird desing. But if I remember the first Civic I saw, it was ugly, and they are still there. Maby youngsters will adopt it.
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Response 50 of 86: Frank Susca (Cafe) * Fri, Jan 9, 1998 (11:09) * 1 lines
Agreed Yves. Though Sam's got a point with the company using shape as a come-on, I think many younger drivers would be attracted to it for the looks and overall basic engineering (for today). Gone are the days when a VW owner could discover their mechanical ability by putting a worried wrench to their own car. It's a car i'd look at to buy my daughter when she gets her license.
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Response 51 of 86: El Sam Blob (Afor) * Sat, Jan 10, 1998 (05:37) * 1 lines
I don't mind the look of the new Beetle. What I do mind is that VW is using the facade of an idea they no longer believe in so as to cash in on the nostalgia craze. This is about as bad as fake fins on watercooled bikes!!
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Response 52 of 86: Frank Susca (Cafe) * Sat, Jan 10, 1998 (10:43) * 2 lines
Pretty close analogy! I belong to the VW lists and many feel they've been sold out, including the water-cooled crew. Be interesting to know what Germans and other Euros feel about it.
Fake fins very much like the "spoilers" on the trunklids of Civics, etc.!
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Response 53 of 86: El Sam Blob (Afor) * Sat, Jan 10, 1998 (23:03) * 1 lines
Those "spoilers" do what they say; they spoil the look :-[
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Response 54 of 86: El Sam Blob (Afor) * Sat, Jan 10, 1998 (23:11) * 1 lines
OBTW, have you read this month's Side Glances column in Road & Track? Peter Egan wrote about cars that broke all class & social barriers; cars like the Model A, the Citroen 2CV, the MG TC, the SAAB 92 and 93, the VW Beetle, the Austin-Healey Sprite, the BMC Mini, etc. He was hard pressed to come up with modern equivalents, eventually naming the Miata, the soft-top Jeep Wrangler, and, oddly enough, the Dodge Neon. He couldn't think of any European car to fit the bill.
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Response 55 of 86: carmen hermosillo (humdog2) * Mon, Jan 12, 1998 (11:27) * 3 lines
what about the ford pickup? what is it, 250? does not the poor cowboy
and the rich horse lady aspire to it?
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Response 56 of 86: Frank Susca (Cafe) * Mon, Jan 12, 1998 (17:15) * 1 lines
Hey here the rich horse ladies go for the RRovers & Suburbans bigtime. And the pickup guys want the big Dodge RamCharger.
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Response 57 of 86: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Jan 12, 1998 (20:19) * 3 lines
A friend of mine just got the big Dodge Diesel pickup and
he's real happy with it.
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Response 58 of 86: Frank Susca (Cafe) * Tue, Jan 13, 1998 (09:59) * 1 lines
Huge and expensive Terry! Does he use it for some kind of heavy work? Here they tow horses and large boats. The diesel lasts forever.
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Response 59 of 86: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Jan 13, 1998 (10:48) * 2 lines
Andy's using it for his construction business. He was sure raving about it.
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Response 60 of 86: carmen hermosillo (humdog2) * Fri, Jan 16, 1998 (17:43) * 3 lines
alas.
the california horse ladies want the toyota rava, the jeep, and, of course
the bmw.
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Response 61 of 86: Sam Blob (Afor) * Fri, Jan 16, 1998 (21:57) * 1 lines
erm, and what bmw might that be?
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Response 62 of 86: Frank Susca (Cafe) * Sat, Jan 17, 1998 (09:38) * 1 lines
The biggest one they can lease IMO!
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Response 63 of 86: carmen hermosillo (humdog2) * Mon, Jan 19, 1998 (15:46) * 8 lines
ha!
now tell me please what is this volvo thingie i hear about an allwheeldrive
volvo. is it still the station wagon they're talking about?
and what is the little honda jeep looking thing?
please help me.
i must buy a car soon and do not wish to embarrass myself.
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Response 64 of 86: El Sam Blob (Afor) * Mon, Jan 19, 1998 (15:56) * 1 lines
Yes, the Volvo AWDs areall-wheel drive versions of the front-wheel drive station wagons. The Honda CR-V is marketed as a mini-SUV, but I prefer to think of it as a new Civic Wagon, especially since it's now available with front-wheel drive.
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Response 65 of 86: carmen hermosillo (humdog2) * Tue, Jan 20, 1998 (10:31) * 11 lines
oh. i want a car that i can drive to death, haul stuff in, put my dog in
(he is a large black lab) and yet, somehow, manage to retain some
semblance of decorum (translation: i am sick to death of my pickup truck)
and perhaps even elegance. i want something i can take to the
airport and not have to keep transferring luggage all over the car.
i want to be able to take my dog AND the luggage AND the people
to the airport...
sigh...
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Response 66 of 86: Frank Susca (Cafe) * Wed, Jan 21, 1998 (09:10) * 1 lines
I kinda think a medium-line minivan would do it better than a mini "truck". The little trucks (CR-V, RAV4, Sidekick,etc) are really staion-wagons with high centers of gravity and short wheelbases, if you get my meaning. A well chosen minivan is somewhat more utilitarian all round. If ypou need to haul a dog & "stuff', you can pull the seats on the minivan, but not in the SUVs.
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Response 67 of 86: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Jan 21, 1998 (09:19) * 3 lines
Minivan came to my mind. Dodge/Chrysler seem to have the best,
although I'm sure I'd get some debate on this!
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Response 68 of 86: carmen hermosillo (humdog2) * Wed, Jan 21, 1998 (16:22) * 5 lines
but are there any PRETTY minivans,
or do they all look like something designed
for my GRANDMOTHER????
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Response 69 of 86: Yves G. (yves) * Thu, Jan 22, 1998 (03:37) * 1 lines
Think that you'll have to look at trailers :o)
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Response 70 of 86: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Jan 22, 1998 (06:33) * 5 lines
I actually like the grandmotherly look of the older Dodge Carvans than the
bulbous look of the sleek new models. I got my 89 Caravan for $700 and
dopeed a $1500 rebuild in to it. If I did it again, I would get a better
quality rebuild. I may do it again soon, get a second mini-van.
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Response 71 of 86: carmen hermosillo (humdog2) * Thu, Jan 22, 1998 (15:40) * 9 lines
so
i went to http://www.chrysler.com (which looks to be having some trouble
with pop-ups when i was there) and looked at the minivans.
i dunno.
can we have more suggestions please?
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Response 72 of 86: Frank Susca (Cafe) * Thu, Jan 22, 1998 (16:07) * 1 lines
Neighbor just bought a Chevy Venture minivan, very versatile and well priced at 21K. Check www.edmunds.com for good comparisons.
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Response 73 of 86: El Sam Blob (Afor) * Fri, Jan 23, 1998 (04:17) * 1 lines
How about a Honda Odyssey? Or the Volkswagen Caravelle?
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Response 74 of 86: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Jan 23, 1998 (04:21) * 2 lines
Or the Mazda minivan? I'm not recommending this because I haven't driven it,
I just got interested because of their ads.
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Response 75 of 86: Frank Susca (Cafe) * Fri, Jan 23, 1998 (08:06) * 2 lines
The Mazda MPV is it? It's a good looker, but it's construction all round is pretty light IMO, as with their cars. Underpowered also. So for the rather high price you can get a more substantial "real" minivan from Dodge, etc. The Odyssey's fault is also price, though it's stylish and of good quality.
Another option, though again they aren't cheap, is a pickup with extended cab and a cap. Mom's won't drive 'em, but they last and do the job.
Topic 7 of 39 [cars]: the chrysler sebring convertible
Response 76 of 86: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Jan 23, 1998 (09:56) * 2 lines
What about a sport utility?
Topic 7 of 39 [cars]: the chrysler sebring convertible
Response 77 of 86: carmen hermosillo (humdog2) * Fri, Jan 23, 1998 (13:11) * 26 lines
the sport utility. that is interesting.
is it possible to get one for less than the price of a small house?
i have for sometime lusted in my heart after the cj7 jeep
and the hummer. unfortunately i had to dismiss the hummer
because of its price and dieselness. i am told also that
the jeep is easy to turn over on twisty roads. my part of
california is full of almost nothing but teensy twisty mountain roads.
the bad thing about a convertible for me is that i will be
arguing with my dog about chasing interesting things by leaping
out of the car. he is an enthusiast. i suppose also that
this impulse of his would shred the hell out of the
fabric top on the jeep.
in the porsche he fit very nicely in back of the front seats, and had
his own rug there and was quite pleased with the arrangement,as he
would stretch out and snooze on that shelfy thing there. he was not
allowed to touch the leather.
sigh.
it is an impossibility.
Topic 7 of 39 [cars]: the chrysler sebring convertible
Response 78 of 86: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Jan 23, 1998 (20:45) * 6 lines
What part of California? I used to live out in Occidental and
know what you're talking about. I'm also pondering a new vehicle
and it's between another mini-van and a sport utility. I'm just
starting to research it.
Topic 7 of 39 [cars]: the chrysler sebring convertible
Response 79 of 86: Yves G. (yves) * Fri, Jan 23, 1998 (23:48) * 1 lines
A Grand Cherokee maybe? A big SUV, lot of cargo...
Topic 7 of 39 [cars]: the chrysler sebring convertible
Response 80 of 86: El Sam Blob (Afor) * Sat, Jan 24, 1998 (10:10) * 3 lines
How about a Ford Club Wagon, or whatever the passenger version of the Econoline is called (i.e. a full sized van)
If it's not individual enough, maybe give it a psychedelic paint job?
Topic 7 of 39 [cars]: the chrysler sebring convertible
Response 81 of 86: Frank Susca (Cafe) * Sat, Jan 24, 1998 (10:25) * 2 lines
Both the Grand and the Club are huge, fairly gas-intensive vehicles. The vans generally don't have AWD or 4WD unless you pay much more. Being a guy with 2 kids, a dog down the road for sure, and plenty of bad weather and twisties to live with, my homework concluded that I'll happily pay about $20K for a loaded Subaru Forester this spring. It focuses down to every practicality the best for the money.
Having driven a CJ for a while, they're good for a single person who can stand the spartan construction and noise, and they hold their value. A $45K Hummer? Ridiculous. It's a military transport period, no matter how cool they look on rap videos. Now the "Hummbug" and other kitbodies that drop on a VW pan for $5K, those I could like...
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Response 82 of 86: Yves G. (yves) * Sun, Jan 25, 1998 (01:53) * 1 lines
Frank, you owned a CJ? Tell me about the road handling on snow. I've tried one last summer on a gravel road and didn"t been very impressed. Kind of a dancig car. But maybe I was wrong.
Topic 7 of 39 [cars]: the chrysler sebring convertible
Response 83 of 86: Frank Susca (Cafe) * Mon, Jan 26, 1998 (08:28) * 1 lines
I shared a CJ with a roommate a while back. On snow, it went. In rain I always felt it would skid. Trying to grab a parking spot in NYC I "almost" rolled it, stood it on 2 wheels turning. As a short distance car in a rural area, probably pretty good.
Topic 7 of 39 [cars]: the chrysler sebring convertible
Response 84 of 86: Yves G. (yves) * Mon, Jan 26, 1998 (23:23) * 1 lines
You confirm what I was suspecting. I like the look, the 4WD, but all year car, don't think so.
Topic 7 of 39 [cars]: the chrysler sebring convertible
Response 85 of 86: Sam Blob (AlFor) * Tue, Apr 2, 2002 (14:57) * 5 lines
"but are there any PRETTY minivans,
or do they all look like something designed
for my GRANDMOTHER????" - Carmen Hermosillo
Well, since the last post, Chrysler came up with the PT Cruiser. This sounds like what you want...
Topic 7 of 39 [cars]: the chrysler sebring convertible
Response 86 of 86: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Apr 3, 2002 (07:46) * 1 lines
I can't make up my mind about the PT Cruiser, I've never ridden in one and they look sort of appealing on the outside. But I'd probably rather have a minivan than a minivan lite or a minivan genx. I'm curious about the SUV/truck combo vehicles that have started to appear, *that's* what I'd really like to see up close.
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